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  MSNBC    The Rachel Maddow Show    News/Business.  (2011) New.  

    March 11, 2011
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it was very painful and i was just intent on clearing his name. my son, my community, my people, other people, we are not here to fight each other and cast suspicion and character assassination, but new york post article where reporter, the paper has no integrity. i did not watch the show on which peter king was on with them. many families members agree, we were given a meeting, by his office. we traveled and he did not meet us. >> talat hamdani, thank you very much for joining us. your suffering is unimaginable. we greatly appreciate you coming in to discuss this. russell simmons, thank you also
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for joining us. "the rachel maddow show" is up next. we are out of time here. good evening, rachel. >> good evening, lawrence. thanks for that. that was an incredibly powerful interview. thanks for doing that. have a good weekend. nuclear power is a very, very expensive way of boiling water. instead of a nuclear fission causing a nuclear explosion, the power plants control the chain reaction, channel the energy of what would be a mushroom cloud instead into heat, a massive amount of heat, and we use that heat to boil water. that's what a nuclear power plant does. they boil water. the water makes steam, the steam spins turbines, and the spinning turbines make electricity. it is a logical process, but it has two problems. first, even when used as directed, making power this way produces nuclear waste. radioactive dangerous waste that can in some cases be turned into
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the raw material for nuclear weapons. but second, beyond the nuclear waste problem, nuclear power production is kind of a high-wire act, when the whole idea behind what you're doing depends on this plant controlling a nuclear chain reaction, you really can't afford anything that might interrupt your control. if there's any disturbance, say an earthquake, the chain reaction process is immediately shut down, control rods drop into the hot nuclear core to stop the fission process. even when it is not in effect turned on, that core is still so hot that a lot of things still have to go right in order to keep something really bad from happening. have you ever noticed that a lot of nuclear power plants are on the shore, on top of a water source. if you tend to think of nuclear power plants in terms of the possibility of radioactive leaks or emissions, it can be
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unnerving to see the nuclear towers on the local river, the local coastline. but the reason they're on the water is because they use a huge amount of water to cool down that unimaginably hot nuclear core. even when the process of nuclear fission is stopped, the nuclear core is so hot, it needs a constant, heavy supply of cool water to be cycled around the nuclear core in order to dissipate its heat, pumping huge amounts of water through the cooling system to dissipate that nuclear heat. ironically enough, that actually takes power, electric power, even if the plant is turned off. so if an earthquake or some other disaster is severe enough to cut off electrical power to a nuclear power plant, if it is severe enough to disrupt the backup systems, too, if the power is off and water isn't flowing through the tanks to dissipate that heat from the nuclear core, then that core will over time turn all the
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water into the cooling system into steam, it will start to evaporate. if the power is off so long that the watery vap rates so much that the water levels fall so low that the nuclear core itself gets exposed to the air, it is undissipated heat and will cause what is known as nuclear melt down. not using it as a metaphor, it is literally. it overheats, it melts, it melts through and ultimately destroys the reactor, then we pray whatever containment facilities built around the reactor are sufficient to actually contain the disaster. at 2:43:00 p.m., they reported that the three reactors were shut down due to the massive earthquake in the country. at 2:46, at the first announcement, they said they had lost electrical power they get from off site, but said they were able to switch to backup, to on site diesel generators.
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remember, the earthquake that hit japan was offshore. the tsunami caused by the earthquake didn't hit shore until about an hour after the big quake. so at 2:46, after the quake, but before the tsunami, the reactor is shut down. right? and they lost power. but their on site generators were working to keep the thing cool. but then 55 minutes later at 3:41 local time, a second announcement came from that plant. now the backup generators were out, too. we don't know if they were knocked out by the tsunami, timing seems right, but the backup power source failed. then the daiichi was back to the battery powered. and that only lasts until the batteries hold out, if they can't be recharged. the stakes are high. if they cannot keep power onto keep water circulating through the cooling system around the nuclear core, it will evaporate
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the water around it, the core will be exposed, and it will melt down, and that is very bad. authorities initially evacuated a two mile radius around the plant. then extended that evacuation area to six miles. as they vented the steam being produced by the water that is in the cooling system, the japanese nuclear safety said it raised to 120 times normal in the plant. 8 times normal at the gates of the facility. japan declared an atomic power emergency. the international atomic power agency, and this is the good news part you've been waiting for, international atomic energy agency says mobile electricity supplies have arrived at the reactor site. they have more than 50 nuclear power plants. at least ten are off line because of the quake, in addition to the die each ee plant, they also declared another emergency at another
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plant. this is where the daiichi plant is and this is where the daini plant is. you can see how it all fits together. joining us now, edwin lymon. expert on nuclear power. thank you very much for your time. >> great to be here. >> between the twoof us, there's only one phd in physics. if you could start by saying if i misstated anything or if there's anything critical i left out. >> actually, it was technically flawless, you should get an honorary doctor at in nuclear engineering. >> i like that. is there anything about how the situation progressed in the last few hours that makes you feel any better or more reassured about the chances of preventing a big disaster.
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>> i am getting less reassured with every update. the news that the incident was affecting not just three reactors at daiichi but also at daini, indicates the authorities were not being up front a long time ago in their dealings with the public, and just makes the situation seem as if it is escalating out of control. so i am worried about what else we are not being told at this point. >> when the authorities put up statements about pressure in some of these reactors rising, saw one report today for example that pressure in one the the daiichi reactors was twice the capacity. how dangerous is that, how do you alleviate that pressure? >> the danger is that as the reactor gets hotter and the containment atmosphere gets hotter, the pressure will increase. and in order to avoid a potentially catastrophic rupture, the hope is that you
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release some of the pressure by venting some radioactive gas now and avoid a larger catastrophe later. so it is really a devil's bargain, but of course the radiation exposure resulting from moderate venting is going to be a lot less than if this accident actually progresses to a worst case where we have a full scale corn melt, and then a catastrophic rupture of containment. >> to be clear about that venting, that essentially is a controlled, deliberate release of some amount of radiation, and obviously that's a better scenario than an uncontrolled release of a lot of radiation, but is there reason to be concerned even about what has been vented, even though it has been done on purpose? >> well, any amount of radiation is a hazard, it is an established fact that there's no safe level of radiation. so of course, any artificial radiation introduced into the
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environment is a concern. i understand the logic behind controlled venting at this point and i think we all hope it is going to work because if there's a catastrophic rupture of the containment and large scale corn melt, we could be facing something like they are noble as opposed to something like three mile island. at three mile island as bad as it was, they were able to avert a full scale containment failure, and there was a release of radiation but comparatively small. but of course, you're dealing with comparatives here. you know, you have two unpalatable choices and you have to decide. >> i don't mean to ask you to explain the obvious. just looking at the images from japan today, confronting the certainty of hundreds of deaths, the likelihood of more than a thousand, if not thousands of deaths, confronting the certainty of billions and billions of dollars' worth of
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damage, if there is a nuclear melt down and as you say, we could be looking at something as serious as chernobyl, does that make this a global disaster in addition to being a japanese disaster? >> yes, i think in a number of ways, it does. first of all, chernobyl did inject a lot of radio activity into the atmosphere and that did go around the northern hemisphere. there were certain aspects of that release we probably wouldn't see here. it was a much hotter plume and it went much higher, but i think we can expect there will be some detectible radioactivity if there were an event of that size in japan, but also the other ramifications are clearly economic and also they have to do with their ability to mitigate climate change. our organization you see is not opposed to nuclear power, per se. we worry about climate change
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and understand nuclear power is one option, but we shouldn't take that option off the table by running nuclear power plants in unsafe way, because obviously catastrophe like this could eliminate the possibility of that option. so we believe that nuclear plants really have to make an extra effort to be as safe and secure as possible, and unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the attitude of the nuclear industry, even in the united states or abroad. >> let me ask you one last question about that attitude and seriousness about safety. if there is a meltdown, god forbid, at either of these affected plants, we will be counting on the containment units around the reactors themselves to confine the damage, just so we understand it. can you explain for a lay audience what containment unit is like, if one has ever been tested in a real life disaster before and if we should assume they might be compromised by the earthquake and tsunami themselves? >> well, the containment structures are generally
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reinforced concrete buildings that have a leak tight liner. and the idea behind the containment is really if you have what's called a design basis accident where you have a partial melting of the core, but don't have any catastrophic explosion, that that containment will function to limit radiation releases. unfortunately after most reactors operating today were designed and built, they discovered that well, there are certain types of events that could challenge the containment and they're not impossible. so most of the containment buildings at reactors today are vulnerable to certain severe events that could threaten their capacity to contain radiation, and unfortunately the mark 1 boiling reactor which is what we have a cushion on has vulnerabilities. people have known about it for a long time, if there were a corn melt that escaped from the reactor vessel, it may breach the containment, so i think there's a wide range of containment buildings out there,
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but i am concerned about the mark 1s in particular and the ability to contain radiation in this event. >> dr. lymon, you have helped me understand this better and you have not set my mind at ease at all. but thank you for helping us explain it. thanks a lot. >> thank you. >> you look at the devastation caused in japan, and it makes you realize how huge an 8.9 earthquake is. consider that there may be no other country in the world that is better prepared for earthquakes than japan is. what happened to japan is horrific and it is still unfolding, and the reasons why it wasn't an even bigger disaster than it was are really important, and in some cases surprising. a live report from japan about what has happened, what is happening now, and some of the reasons the catastrophe is not worse, and a further nuclear safety update later in the show. please stay with us. it helps the largest of companies seize opportunity like the smallest of startups. it's the network--
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>> disrupting a meeting of japan's parliament. politicians shocked as the floor beneath them vibrates and the chandelier above them shakes ominously. it was a scene experienced in offices and homes across japan. >> we do not yet know how many people died in japan in the last 24 hours as a result of the world's fifth largest earthquake since we as humans started recording the size of earthquakes. it could be hundreds of people dead, but could conceivably be thousands, not to mention billions of dollars in damage. this is what it was like to be at work, at home, shopping, parking the car, doing the things everybody does every day while it happened. only today in northeast japan, those things were terrifying. if you have ever experienced an earthquake, you know how scary the shaking sensation of that can be. but what you can see from the footage we had out of japan, what hit northeastern japan was so big, it was almost kwaul at a
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timively different than anything we have seen. even with the astounding damage they understand today, we are also confronted with the strange fact it really could have been worse. i mean that in one specific way. japan is one of the most earthquake ready nations on earth. in addition to multiple systems to warn the population and evacuate them from potential tsunamis, they also have one of the strictist building codes in the world. when earthquakes hit tall buildings, sway like this, that was not a mistake. that's what the billions of dollars in earthquake technology intended, deep foundations and shock absorbers make it sway. when they sway, they are less likely to fall. office buildings, schools and homes were outfitted with earthquake emergency kits with food, water, medical supply, hard hats, gloves. since the 1980s, japan invested in concrete sea walls, some as
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high as 40 feet that wrap around the lengthy coastline. some towns closest to water have warning systems by much local authorities can contact people directly in their homes. there are flood gates that close automatically, ports built on raised platforms. every japanese kid goes through a monthly earthquake drill. some fire departments take school kids into earthquake simulator machines. for adults, there are community evacuation drills to teach people about specially designed evacuation routes. none of this is enough, of course, when confronted with a quake and tsunami this big. but even if it is not enough, it is something, and it probably means many fewer lives were lost today than might have been true had the same quake and same tsunami hit any other nation. joining us now, nathan lane, reuters tokyo bureau chief, lived in japan more than a decade. thank you for joining us. we are happy to have you.
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>> thank you very much. >> what can you tell us about rescue efforts and the aftermath in japan now? >> well, obviously the quake hit about 3:00 local time here yesterday, and then the devastation carried through the night, and basically the government, self defense forces put all of their efforts into trying to find survivors, trying to get help to people that are under debris or have been washed away, trying to find them. >> i know that or at least i imagine you lived through other earthquakes in japan if you've been there over a decade. how soon was it clear that this was not just another earthquake, that this was actually a national disaster of really significant magnitude? >> it was immediately clear to me. i was actually a few minutes outside the office, and i've been through many earthquakes, and you become immune to them.
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you're used to them. but this one was kwaul at a timively different. outside our building, reuters is in a 40 story building. you could say it visibly swaying from side to side. people rushed out into the streets. it was obvious this one was a big one. >> do you think japan's earthquake preparedness and tsunami preparedness made a difference in the survivability of this disaster? >> oh, there's no doubt. obviously japan has invested billions of dollars into break waters, flood gates, you know, because japan has lived with tsunamis for so many years and learned to live with them, learned to be aware that they could come at any moment. obviously it was not enough. you see the areas, one under a third of water, airport underwater. obviously it was not enough.
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but certainly the amount of money and the effort put into preparations limited the damage here. of course, we still don't know what the toll of this wake is. i mean, we won't know for several days. >> beyond immediate rescue efforts what can you tell us about health and safety concerns for the general population now and moving into the weekend, things like power, clean water, communication? >> right. well, communications is still a bit patchy, but phone communication is getting back. the internet is for the most part there. obviously the devastated areas are in a more difficult spot. obviously the rescue efforts are concentrating on getting food and water to the people that need them. power was out for millions of people, and that's slowly getting back. but obviously that's a focus of the rescue efforts. >> do the authorities, do local
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government and the national government appear to have a disaster plan that accounts for disaster of this magnitude? do they seem to be reacting in a fashion that is orderly, inspires confidence, seems capable of dealing with the massive challenges that japan now faces? >> obviously the challenge of this rescue is huge, and to what extent the government and the authorities have responded well to this, we won't know until the final damage is known. but certainly in the initial hours response by the government was orderly. there was quick dissemination of information to the media about what was going on. even with the nuclear power plant issue, the government has at least -- we don't know what we are dealing with, but the government has gotten in front of the issue, appears to be trying to inform the public
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about the risks and dangers. >> i know it may be hard to compare magnitude of concern given the disaster of this size and of this complexity, but in terms of that nuclear disaster, is there significant concern in japan on top of everything else everybody is dealing with that that might be a whole new level of complication and risk for the people of japan? >> no doubt. there's a lot of concern right now about, you know, really what might happen. we have experts saying that, you know, it is not going to be chernobyl, that can could be contained, that even if there is a radioactive leak, it might not be all that devastating, but who knows, and that's the scary part. i think immediately there are more people in japan that are dealing with the damage of the quake, and that's sort of the most important thing in front of
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them, the tsunami, the impact of the earthquake itself as opposed to what might happen at the nuclear plant, but certainly this is front page news, and the media is all over this story, and for obvious reasons, the risk is huge. >> nate and layne, tokyo reuters bureau chief who is exhausted, having lived through it, still covering it all these hours later. thanks for joining us and good luck with your continued coverage. >> thank you. >> the tsunami generated by the earthquake reached hawaii and the continental united states this morning. people there had lots of advanced warning it was coming, and that is something that cannot be taken for granted. that's next. as low as 4.75% at lendingtree.com. plus, get the best deal or we'll pay you $1,000. call lending tree at... today.
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aloha from honolulu where we are under a tsunami watch. >> we are one block out of the evacuation zone. >> expect my mother to be calling soon. >> this is so eery. >> it is eery. >> that's what it was like on the big island of hawaii early this morning where a tsunami warning was issued following the earthquake off the coast of japan. ultimately and thankfully there was little damage when the waves hit hawaii. they then downgraded that warning to an advisory. tsunami warnings were issued in california, oregon, and in
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washington state. in northern california town of crescent city, right up by the oregon border, a man who was reportedly swept up by a wave in the pacific ocean, that man is now presumed dead. they failed to locate his body. he and two friends had gone to the shoreline to photograph the incoming tsunami waves. they were as high as six and a half feet, did significant damage to the harbor and coastline in crescent city. more than six years after the indian ocean tsunami killed 230,000 people, tsunamis may be rare, but they are massive. the tsunami warning system in the pacific is based in hawaii, includes 26 different member states. the goal is simple. to take data about the hundreds of earthquakes that strike every day and determine the likelihood that that seismic action could trigger a tsunami.
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here in the united states, noah operates a system called dart. it stands for deep ocean assessment and reporting of tsunamis. dart is a network of 39 stations out at sea, anchored to the bottom of the sea floor. up on the ocean surface is a buoys that gathers information about temperature and pressure and sends it back to be analyzed four times an hour. using anchors and buoys information, the system determines essentially the height of the water, and if the buoys detect some unusual event, they ramp up the frequency with which they send back information to home base, ramp it up to four times a minute. as important and life-saving as this tsunami early warning systems are, they are facing severe budget cuts. the spending plan approved by the republican controlled house last month would cut the budgets of the organizations that run the pacific tsunami warning center in hawaii by almost 30%. we'll be right back. tdd# 1-800-345-2550
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country, all with multiple reactors. two of the plants are in a state of emergency after the earthquake and subsequent tsunami not only knocked out power to the cooling systems that prevent the nuclear core and reactors from melting down, but they also knocked out backup systems as well. they've been working on battery power generators, trying to restore full power. at the fukushima daiichi plant, radiation lechls of reportedly 1,000 times of normal levels. radiation at the gates eight times the norm. there is a six mile radius they needed to evacuate. this is in one of the hardest-hit areas of japan. they vented some of the vapor from the reactor to relieve the pressure. it does release radiation into the atmosphere, but hoping the cure is better than the disease. south of that facility at the
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daimi plant, three reactors are at risk there. they evacuated people within three miles. they are deciding whether to release steam from those reactors as well. they say they can contain the nuclear melt down threat. president obama made it clear the united states is standing by to help. >> i asked steve chu, our energy secretary, to be in close contact with their personnel to provide any assistance that's necessary, but also to make sure that if, in fact, there are breaches in the safety system on the nuclear plants that they're dealt with right away. >> joining us now, joe sir ins own ee. in full disclosure, my friend. joe, i wanted to talk with you all day today, as soon as i
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realized. you are not a guy that gets easily worried. how worried are you about the situation, how confident that the nuclear energy world knows how to resolve this? >> i am getting very worried and getting increasingly worried. part of that worry is we are not getting good information about the power company. it is not really clear what's happening. they maybe have retained control over the cooling systems of the two reactors, but what's happened all day they assured us the situation was under control, then release another statement showing it is not controlled at all. we have never seen something like this. we have never seen multiple reactors at risk. we have at least two reactors they say at the daiichi site that are having cooling problems. there are three reactors at the
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daini site that are at risk. nothing like this ever happened in the nuclear power industry. we are in unchartered territory. >> in terms of worst case scenario, i don't know much about nuclear disaster, but i think i know chernobyl did not have a containment facility around their reactors and that blew up and these reactors do. does that mean this is a qualitatively different thing? >> most experts are not thinking there's that great risk of explosion at these sites, but it could happen if the containment vessel gets too much pressure built up. as you noted on the show, they now have two times the design pressure building up inside the containment vessels, so it is not out of the question, it is just considered unlikely at this point. and as ed lymon said, it is a high plume of radioactive material. probably nothing like that. it is probably more like three mile island scenario, in the
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boiling water reactors where the core melts and will drop through the containment vessel. then you want to make sure that the concrete which is feet thick can contain that molten core. if that fails, then that is really the worst case scenario that the entire containment structure collapses, then we have massive releases of highly radioactive material. >> and that material that would be released in a case like that would be released in a gassy us form? a radioactive cloud that could move? >> once it is hot, it hits other structures, you get fire, smoke, particulat particulates, then ground contamination. we have never seen something like this happened. they stopped three mile island before it got to that stage. we have to all hope that the tokyo officials know what they are doing, that they are able to contain this, that the generators are being rushed in there, can get online.
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we are going to know in the next few hours whether this situation will be under control. we should know by tomorrow morning just how bad it is, if we can get the nuclear power industry to actually give us up-to-date information. >> in terms of these next few hours, and as you say, we are not going to know how this is going to resolve. best case, for the next few hours, is the evacuation, the six mile radius, thousands of people moved under very difficult circumstances, does that seem appropriate to you in terms of protecting the population there? >> that is a minimum evacuation scenario that you would want. it depends. you know, if you just are having release of radioactive steam, that's not supposed to happen, that you don't like that, no amount of radio activity is safe, but then that evacuation scenario makes sense. if you talk about massive releases of more radioactive steam, then we really would be talking about 00s of scare
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kilometers to vak wait. it would blow most radioactivity out to sea and could blow it over to the west coast of the united states. >> are there international resources that could be brought to bear on this that would make a difference, or is japan as good as anyone at dealing with this technology? >> japan is very good. these reactors are generally considered in japan in the state of the art. these are particularly old designs, but they have relatively high construction standards for their reactors. iaea can be brought in to help on this, and in the case of airlift, which is what the president was talking about, the united states could help lift things like generators, backup power supplies. this should be an all hands on deck exercise. as bad as the natural disaster was today and still is today in japan, this could be a technological could tas trof ee.
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for my money, this is the most important part of this tsunami crisis to be focusing on right now. >> it is also the thing that could turn this tragedy and disaster in japan into international tragedy. joe sir in see own ee, thanks. >> thank you, rachel. most of our tension has been on japan where it remains, frankly. there is one other story, a story about the u.s. and terrorism that we as a show decided that it bears telling, even on this night with everything else going on in japan. we'll be back with that in a moment. [ robin ] quality and reliability are more than words here.
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interrupting our on-going japan coverage for a moment to bring you a domestic news story we wanted to make sure we got on the air tonight. authorities in alaska say they arrested five people for allegedly plotting to kill multiple alaska state troopers and a federal judge. one of the suspects is this man, the founder and leader of an alaska militia group, former candidate for alaska state
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legislature and outspoken guns advocate. fair banks police chief says the arrests yesterday targeted members of sovereign citizens movement, described by the fbi as a domestic terrorist movement. they are extremist that believe they are not subject to state, federal and local laws. many resist tent to any form of governmental authority. scott roeder who killed george tiller in 2009 was linked to the sovereign citizens movement, as was timothy mcveigh's associate carry nichols. also there has been an arrest this week in the spokan, washington, martin luther king day bomb, which was feared to be linked to the white supremacist movement responsible for other bombings in the northwest in years past. january 17th this year, what was later described by authorities as sophisticated and, quote, very lethal bomb, was found on a
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bench in a backpack on the planned route of martin luther king parade in spokan. the bomb didn't go off because a handful of local workers found it before the start of the parade and reported it, and the bomb squad was able to diffuse it in time. yesterday, in rural washington, two days ago in washington abos outside spokane federal agents arrested a suspect in the bombing attempt near his home. this is well north of spokane. you may remember that along with the bomb that ultimately did not go off two t-shirts were found inside the backpack along the spokane parade route. those t-shirts were tied to events from the area where the suspect was arrested on wednesday. the suspect is a 36-year-old man named kevin harpong. a spokesman at fort lewis which is now joint base lewis mccord confirmed this week that he served in the army and was stationed at fort lewis until 1999. the complaint charges he
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attempted to use a weapon of mass destruction, an improvised explosive device placed prior to along the planned route of the martin luther king jr. unity march. he is facing life in prison. a federal law enforcement official speaking about the case anonymously to the "new york times" said it is unclear at this point whether the perpetrator acted alone and also said mr. harpham could eventually face more charges. the arrest documents are sealed but an anonymous source described as familiar with the investigation by "the seattle times" told that paper that authorities were able to link him to purchases of bomb components including a remote car starter and other electronics. and that at least one purchase was made with a debit card. the source also says dna recovered in the backpack or on the bomb was linked to mr. harpham. the day after the attempted bombing in january the fbi special agent in charge of the spokane fbi office told the spokesman review that the bomb appeared to have been, quote, a viable device that was very lethal and had the potential to
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inflict multiple casualties. but he also talked about potential motive saying, quote, i think the link to the martin luther king celebration and march is inescapable. at that point it falls directly in the realm and sphere of domestic terrorism. clearly there was some political or social agenda here. that was what the fbi was saying about this attempted bombing in its immediate aftermath. now with the suspect in custody federal authorities are saying essentially nothing about thi potential motive, racial or otherwise. but the southern poverty law center, an organization that tracks hate groups says that its own research shows that the man arrested was a member of a white supremacists group called the national alliance in late 2004. the national alliance is happy for you to know they are in fact a white supremacists group but they are denying that mr. harpham was ever a member. if you know one thing about this group national alliance other than its connection to this case, what you probably know is about its founder, national alliance was founded by a man
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named william pierce. william pierce is dead now. he is less famous for starting a white supremacists group than he is for writing a white supremacists novel called "the turner diaries." the turner diaries describes a violent overthrow of the united states government by white supremacists. clippings from the turner diaries were found in the car that timothy mcveigh was driving. when he was arrested after bombing the federal building in oklahoma city. the book is believed to be part of mr. mcvey's inspiration for that crime. although authorities are not commenting on links between the suspect arrested in the spokane bombing yesterday and white supremacists organizations reporter tomas klaus with the spokesman review newspaper said today, excuse me, said yesterday that investigators believe mr. harpham posted more than a thousand entries talking about a race war and bombs on a racist internet forum. the paper reports that authorities will not publicly confirm it but they believe kevin harpham was posting to a site called the vanguard news network. if they're right about him using that site and they're right about what screen name he was using at that site then this
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november, 2004, entry is from him. quote, in the army my lieutenant told me timothy mcveigh read the turner diaries and there was a blueprint for a truck bomb in it. after i was out of the service and was getting to the point of advanced antigovernment libertarianism i bought the book and when i was finished i was extremely disappointed that there was no plans for a bomb inside. when kevin harpham appeared in court this week he acknowledged that he understands the charges against him and waived his bail hearing. a grand jury will wait later this month to decide if there is enough evidence to indict him and in the meantime he will stay in custody. we were the first news outlet to give this story significant national attention. we will continue to track it and we'll keep you posted. we'll also be right back. [ mal] this...is the network. a living, breathing intelligence that is helping business rethink how to do business. ♪ in here, inventory can be taught to learn...
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at this hour it is late morning in japan well into what
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is now the day after the biggest earthquake ever recorded in that country. in the bright light of day there is revealing the full damage from the 8.9 magnitude earthquake. put that in perspective, the u.s. geological survey says a magnitude 9 earthquake is equivalent to the force of 25,000 nuclear bombs. you know, that massive earthquake that devastated christchurch, new zealand last month, scientists say this one in japan was nearly 8,000 times stronger than the one that hit new zealand. there is also the tsunami that the earthquake triggered which sent a 30-foot wall of water. not just water but water and mud washing across low lying coastal areas of japan. entire towns were swept away. rescue efforts are now in top gear. kyoto news agency reporting in one of the worst hit residential areas people buried under rubble can now be heard calling for help. and now even given how immense this disaster is i almost can't believe i'm saying it but the -- the potential for even greater
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disaster is still unfolding. workers at two of japan's nuclear power plants are struggling to prevent nuclear meltdowns in five different reactors in which the cooling systems have failed or are operating on their fail/safe, fail/safe systems. two power plants, five reactors. this is the fukushima dai-ichi plant in northeastern japan where it was originally believed only one reactor had been affected but it was later confirmed cooling ability had been lost in three reactors at the nearby daini plant. all together five reactors are in a state of emergency in japan in danger of melting down. it is the first time ever the japanese government has declared a state of emergency for a nuclear power plant let alone two at once each involving multiple reactor failures. the prime minister of japan was seen departing tokyo on his way to visit the nuclear plant just hours ago. there's lots more still unknown at this hour. authorit